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ronnie Card Holder Posts : 5 Location : manchester Status : Offline |
steering weaving Hello, we are the new owners of a 1986 autosleeper clubman and are complete novices.(but really looking forward to learning) I wonder anyone has any ideas as to why when we got the vehicle on the motorway it was weaving an awful lot at times with achy arms controlling it?! any advice would be appreciated, thanks |
 Tue 09 Mar 2010 @ 22:00
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philbradshaw Card Holder Posts : 2336 Location : Haslingden Status : Offline 
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More likely (& relatively easy to check) - Incorrect tyre pressures. Excessive front wheel bearing play (adjustable). Worn track rod end, either side or both. Incorrect wheel alignment: tracking too wide will cause steering wander. ---------------------- |
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Tue 09 Mar 2010 @ 22:27
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Greg Card Holder Posts : 341 Location : Shropshire Status : Offline |
Hi Ronnie, Some motorways suffer sub base failure, which can cause this, particularly on the inside lane, even when the surface grooves are hardly visible. ---------------------- |
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Tue 09 Mar 2010 @ 22:49
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Gethin Moderator Posts : 4762 Location : Wesham. near Blackpool. Status : Offline 
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Bet you have never traveled in the slow lane of the motorway have you. Next time you go on motorway check to see if there is 2 ruts in the road caused by the constant HGV traveling along it. As the Beddy is not as wide as HGV you will find that the front wheels try and run in 1 or other rut. Try driving to one side of the ruts or even in the second lane for a bit. ---------------------- |
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Tue 09 Mar 2010 @ 22:53
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Greg Card Holder Posts : 341 Location : Shropshire Status : Offline |
If not motorway grooves, I am really worried about your tyres, the casings can fail even with plenty of tread remaining if internally damaged. Check for bulges in the sidwalls, long or short bulges in the tread area, cracks in the rubber, age related perishing etc. Has the vehicle been parked up on a flat? ---------------------- |
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Tue 09 Mar 2010 @ 23:15
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ronnie Card Holder Posts : 5 Location : manchester Status : Offline |
Hi, thank you so much for your replies. I think we'll get the tyres checked first of all, maybe some new ones to be safe. Do you know what tyre pressure they are meant to be? If it's anything else does anyone know of a good mechanic around the Manchester/Bury area? Also..(all these questions!!) can a manual be bought for it? Thanks again, it's really appreciated. We are just so pleased with our purchase and would like to look after it well. |
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Wed 10 Mar 2010 @ 11:34
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minimick Member Posts : 23 Location : Waterlooville Status : Offline 
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Manual from Haynes at Amazon. www.amazon.co.uk/Bedford-1969-87-Workshop-Service-manuals/dp/1850104298/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1268221347&sr=1-1 |
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Wed 10 Mar 2010 @ 11:45
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dmj54 Card Holder Posts : 68 Location : ellesmere port Status : Offline 
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haynes manual hi theres one on e.bay 270540472116 for £4 .00 +£3.00 postage |
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Wed 10 Mar 2010 @ 12:02
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philbradshaw Card Holder Posts : 2336 Location : Haslingden Status : Offline
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ronnie wrote: If it's anything else does anyone know of a good mechanic around the Manchester/Bury area? Bury is about 7 mile from me. Pmail or email me (buttons below this post). ---------------------- |
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Wed 10 Mar 2010 @ 13:05
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ScoobyDoo Card Holder Posts : 561 Location : Nottingham Status : Offline 
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hi and welcome to the Bedheads ronnie wrote: a good mechanic around the Manchester/Bury area? no - just a great one 
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Wed 10 Mar 2010 @ 17:12
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ScoobyDoo Card Holder Posts : 561 Location : Nottingham Status : Offline
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oops sorry what have I done to the board? ---------------------- |
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Wed 10 Mar 2010 @ 17:13
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philbradshaw Card Holder Posts : 2336 Location : Haslingden Status : Offline
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Missed out the '/' as in '/quote' in square brackets to close what you want to quote? ---------------------- |
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Wed 10 Mar 2010 @ 17:22
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ronnie Card Holder Posts : 5 Location : manchester Status : Offline |
dmj54 wrote: hi theres one on e.bay 270540472116 for £4 .00 +£3.00 postage perhaps a naive question, but as ours is a 1986 2.4 CF250 - will this manual be any good, in that its aimed at petrol engines? Clearly there will be fundamental differences, but would it be worth the £7 for the odd tit-bit that could be relevant to ours? |
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Wed 10 Mar 2010 @ 20:32
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philbradshaw Card Holder Posts : 2336 Location : Haslingden Status : Offline
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If the engine is diesel then it should have left the factory with a 2.3 Opel diesel engine. None of the CF diesel engines (2.0, 2.1, 2.3) are covered in the Haynes manual although the rest is (brakes, suspension, electrics etc.); you'll need at least the engine section of the GM manual to supplement a Haynes manual. ---------------------- |
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Wed 10 Mar 2010 @ 20:59
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Mr D.S.Joyce. Card Holder Posts : 280 Location : perth scotland uk Status : Offline |
Weaving and always correcting. Hi and welcome,Having read through all the causes and they are all very valid, I had a problem like this some years age and having checked all the wheelbearing and tyre pressures I still had the problem. Then one day I had the van jacked up at the front and with the steering unlocked spun the steering just using the drivers side wheel and felt a tight spot which it turned out to be the u/j coupling on the steering shaft just above the floor between the brake and clutch pedle. Partly seized once freed off, no more drift and correction, worth a check. Doug. ---------------------- |
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Wed 10 Mar 2010 @ 22:34
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philbradshaw Card Holder Posts : 2336 Location : Haslingden Status : Offline
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To add to Doug's excellent suggestion (not one I've seen for ages but when it occurs it sure makes straight line steering difficult), if there's any play in the steering wheel then also check tightness of the pinch bolt securing the coupling to the bottom of the steering column. Another issue in that area is the plastic bush at the bottom of the steering column: if the bush is badly worn, or the retaining circlip has come off the bottom of the steering column & the thrust washer for the bush is loose then there'll be enough slop to make straight line steering a bit vague. ---------------------- |
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Wed 10 Mar 2010 @ 23:15
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Greg Card Holder Posts : 341 Location : Shropshire Status : Offline |
I hope you all don't mind digression here but the CF steering is wonderful compared with the steering box of our 60's van which is now approaching the limit of it's mot allowed 3" free play at the steering wheel... ---------------------- |
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Wed 10 Mar 2010 @ 23:59
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Colin Birch Admin Posts : 2138 Location : Pontypridd, South Wales Status : Offline 
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ScoobyDoo wrote: oops sorry what have I done to the board? Fixed 
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Fri 12 Mar 2010 @ 21:03
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Greg Card Holder Posts : 341 Location : Shropshire Status : Offline |
Colin Birch wrote: ScoobyDoo wrote:
oops sorry what have I done to the board? Fixed Thanks Colin. Thought it was me.
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Fri 12 Mar 2010 @ 21:12
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Colin Birch Admin Posts : 2138 Location : Pontypridd, South Wales Status : Offline
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greg wrote: Colin Birch wrote:
ScoobyDoo wrote:
oops sorry what have I done to the board? Fixed Thanks Colin. Thought it was me. It was 
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Fri 12 Mar 2010 @ 21:22
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