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luggsey Member Posts : 280 Location : North Devon Status : Offline 
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Seized on clutch I forgot to put a bit of wood on my clutch pedal over the last few months and the clutch plate has seized up.I tried the usual trick of starting it in gear fowards and reverse but nothing works! Am I going to damage anything if I try pulling it backwards while in reverse with the clutch in? It can't go forwards as it's parked up close to a wall. The previous owner had to have a new box after trying to stick it in gear last time it stuck up and I don't want that to happen!! 
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 Sun 07 Feb 2010 @ 17:21
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Skoota Card Holder Posts : 517 Location : Shropshire Status : Offline 
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I'm not sure if this will work on a clutch this size, but I did use this method on a smaller one. What I did, was to hold the pedal down with a length of timber, then, through the release arm aperture, I sprayed brake cleaning fluid and left it overnight. The following day I ran the engine until it reached temperature then did the forward and reverse movement like you did and it freed off. On these gearboxes you do have the benefit of another aperture on the opposite side to the release arm, which should have an oblong rubber cover in it. If this doesn't work, then the only real option is to remove the prop-shaft and gearbox, leaving the bell housing in place, put a clutch mandrel where the primary gearbox shaft should be, slacken off clutch pressure plate bolts in a diagonal sequence and once the pressure plate is relaxed, ease the friction plate off with a shim of steel, a 12" metal ruler should do, whilst you rotate the flywheel with a large screwdriver in the ring-gear's teeth. Cheers and the very best of luck, John. ---------------------- |
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Sun 07 Feb 2010 @ 17:49
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nigelnikkiCF250 Card Holder Posts : 118 Location : Herts Status : Offline 
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I have several old vehicles that don’t do very many miles, so get the stuck clutch problem a couple of times a year. I normally find that if I start it in gear, foot on the clutch it frees up after lurching forwards (or backwards) a couple of feet. Although the Bedford is quite heavy so this might seem a little mean on the starter motor. If you are short of space you could raise one of the rear wheels off the ground, choc the other three wheels. And start it in gear with foot on the clutch. Rev the engine to get a bit of inertia in the raised wheel and then hit the brakes with foot still on the clutch, this should shock it free. Nigel. |
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Mon 08 Feb 2010 @ 06:53
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philbradshaw Card Holder Posts : 2336 Location : Haslingden Status : Offline 
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Whichever method is used to un-stick a clutch warming up the engine first can help. Also, once the engine is warm using the starter with the clutch pedal depressed & top gear selected, brakes held on, might be enough to shock the clutch free. ---------------------- |
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Mon 08 Feb 2010 @ 10:51
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luggsey Member Posts : 280 Location : North Devon Status : Offline
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I have tried all the above, what I was thinking of was dragging the CF backwards with my landy in gear with the clutch in. Would this strain any one part more then the other methods? I have found that trying to start in gear simply loads up the drive train and stops me being able to get it outof gear easily.... 
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Mon 08 Feb 2010 @ 19:09
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Gethin Moderator Posts : 4762 Location : Wesham. near Blackpool. Status : Offline 
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Best way of freeing a seized clutch is either by towing or by heat. The first way is to tow the van forward in neutral gear till you find a nice quiet piece of road. Then holding the clutch peddle down with second gear engaged and nothing in front of you start the engine, OK you will kangaroo but you soon get over this as you pick up speed, keeping the peddle down hit the brakes hard. YOU will either hit the windscreen or you will have a working clutch......... Using reverse gear will cause to high a ratio and could rip the engine mounts off. Second way is to chock the front wheels and jack the rear axle and place on axle stands. Start engine and allow to warm up for about 30 mins. Switch engine off and engage second gear, Start engine as normal , the Beddy will jerk till wheels have got up to speed. Press clutch down and hit brake peddle It should release the clutch plate. If it stalls the engine try again but this time increase revs to about 2500rpm then hit brake. If you fail to get the clutch to free off then you will need to remove the gear box and pry the clutch off. The cause of sticking clutch is a warm/hot damp plate welding it self to the flywheel............. At worst you will need a new clutch fitted............. ---------------------- |
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Mon 08 Feb 2010 @ 22:12
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sidmus Card Holder Posts : 21 Location : North Yorkshire Status : Offline 
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wood? Sorry to sound daft here but why do you need a bit of wood on your clutch pedal? |
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Mon 08 Feb 2010 @ 22:26
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Gethin Moderator Posts : 4762 Location : Wesham. near Blackpool. Status : Offline
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Its to hold the pedal down thus keeping the clutch disengaged. The down side is after a long time you could bend the fingers on the pressure plate.............. ---------------------- |
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Mon 08 Feb 2010 @ 22:32
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jeffo Moderator Posts : 408 Location : Liverpool Status : Offline 
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Yes, and end up with a hole shaped like the back end of a wooden chock in your seat or dashboard! ---------------------- |
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Tue 09 Feb 2010 @ 00:12
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Greg Card Holder Posts : 341 Location : Shropshire Status : Offline |
So the moral of the story here is to forget the piece of wood, periodically run the engine, select a gear and move a few inches. But how often? 
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Tue 09 Feb 2010 @ 11:36
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luggsey Member Posts : 280 Location : North Devon Status : Offline
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Well I still have a stuck Beddy! I can't tow it onto open road, it's in a restriced area now down a lane. I tried brake and clutch cleaner with no joy, I only have an apature where the clutch control arm is, not both sides? Is there any possiblility that I can just slacken off the gearbox and work the plate loose that way? It seems like it's going to be a gearbox off job otherwise..... 
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Sun 07 Mar 2010 @ 10:15
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Greg Card Holder Posts : 341 Location : Shropshire Status : Offline |
You need to remove the pressure plate to work the friction plate free. Unfortunately, to do this you need to remove the gearbox, as Skoota and Gethin said. Just slackening wont give enough room to get proper access.
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Sun 07 Mar 2010 @ 13:54
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ianwolfie Card Holder Posts : 76 Location : luton Status : Offline 
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just checked mine for the first time since parking it up in september and yes, it was seized on. didnt realise til i tried to select a gear which just happened to be reverse and nearly parked it through the front bay windows!!!!! i did what you guys recommended by jacking it up, starting it in gear and slamming on the brakes and it worked a treat. found it worked best in 4th or 5th. have now got a suitable pole holding the clutch down . this info was worth my £8 membership fee alone. cheers all |
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Tue 23 Mar 2010 @ 09:52
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Greg Card Holder Posts : 341 Location : Shropshire Status : Offline |
Or, an altenative to the pole method and its associated problems, as highlighted by Jeffo earlier, could be a suitable wooden wedge inserted into the release arm aperture at the bellhousing, whilst someone presses the clutch pedal, thus holding the arm and keeping the pressure plate off the friction plate. 
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Tue 23 Mar 2010 @ 11:11
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ianwolfie Card Holder Posts : 76 Location : luton Status : Offline
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previous owner fitted toyota seats into mine so not only are they much more comfortable , there is a plate at the bottom to use as a brace for my rod. sweeeet |
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Thu 25 Mar 2010 @ 10:11
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pauline Card Holder Posts : 9 Location : DONCASTER Status : Offline |
 I too had the stuck clutch problem on my CF350. I was told to start it in gear, but to no avail. Tried Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Then on Monday I looked on this site and found someone with the same problem. Thanks to philbradshaw, who suggested trying with the engine warmed up. Worked first time. I have only had the CF since August so I'm sure I will have many more questions to ask, but for now thank you so much.
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